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Old 07-06-2013, 08:21 PM
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For small game harvesting my preference is the Crosman 1322 single-shot, .22 caliber pumper air pistol with removable stock - mainly because it is quiet. I am a big fan of airguns generally.



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i've been looking long and hard at various air-rifles, and crossmans with the add-on stock is really attractive. reasonable weight, next to no recoil, QUIET, and from what i hear reasonably accurate to boot.

the bugout kit they offer seems like a decent deal, too, especially for a fast-takedown packable gun.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:54 AM
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I just searched for that kit and agree that it is a good deal. The stuff that comprises the "kit" is likely just so much junk but the price listed is less than buying the pistol and stock separately as far as I can tell.

I modified mine a little - 16" barrel (from Crosman, cut down and re-crowned by me), dressed up the sear, installed the steel breech, mounted a 32 mm scope, opened up and radiused the gas port - the usual stuff anybody can do at home with simple tools. This is not rocket surgery after all. And the power went up about 15%, which improves this thing's usability factor.

Pretty useful tool.

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Old 10-02-2013, 09:18 PM
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part of the attraction of the bug-out kit's carbine is the caliber - for me the .177s don't cut it - and the longer barrel. greater sight radius, more power, etc.


though i'm really falling for some of the PCP guns crosman offers... some of those are really slick. a customized carbine would run under $140, but it's CO2 powered.

the marauder PCP would be quite nice though for something to take along as a 'forage/plinking gun'.
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:09 AM
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part of the attraction of the bug-out kit's carbine is the caliber - for me the .177s don't cut it - and the longer barrel. greater sight radius, more power, etc.


though i'm really falling for some of the PCP guns crosman offers... some of those are really slick. a customized carbine would run under $140, but it's CO2 powered.

the marauder PCP would be quite nice though for something to take along as a 'forage/plinking gun'.

A pumper has its merits, among them that it is self-contained requiring nothing but muscle. PCP's are great but they come with the requirement for a lot of other "stuff" - pumps, adapters, and so forth - and CO2's obviously have the issue of low to no pressure at temps below 60 degrees.

A pumper in .22 is well-suited to taking small game at very close range, reasonably quietly. Head-shots are required but the inherent accuracy of the system and the fact that it produces no recoil both help make proper shot placement at close range possible.

Certainly a rimfire is more effective and much more versatile, but it still requires chemical propulsion and it is a firearm under the law and that limits its use/carry in many locales.

The Crosman 1389/1322 is a purpose-built tool that can be very effective when used appropriately by the skilled marksman. It should be considered carefully by those evaluating power-projecting tools in the backcountry.



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