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Old 09-04-2011, 02:37 AM
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I want to put in a plug for General Ecology's First Need pump-filter. In 30-odd years of using their pumps I've never been disappointed with them.

Granted, there are lighter systems out there. But I think the First Need wins in it's combination of easy pumping, robustness, versatility (prefilters, gravity feed), and efficiency in removing a broad spectrum of baddies.

Twice my First Need successfully purified really awful water. In the first instance a pool of water that had been turned red by some poisonous henbane plants that had been submerged after heavy rains. The second time I had returned to a cache a year later to find a yellowish-brown liquid that smelled of sulphur. Since I had little choice both times, I sat down with my pump and lo! produced sweet, clear water that was a pleasure to drink.
I have a 'First Need' filter as well ~ but it hasn't yet been put to that sort of a test...

Just happy to know yours was up to the job, Haclil..
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:17 AM
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First Need XL.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:09 AM
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I use the Katadyn Hiker Pro. It performs well and I like the attachments.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:13 AM
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Outdoor_Jim Outdoor_Jim is offline
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While I don't think it has a carbon portion I've got my eye on that new Sawyer Squeeze bag solution.

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The Sweetwater does have an activated carbon core. As does the Miniworks. Not the Hyperflow, though.

My 'lack of carbon' statement was referencing the Sawyer Squeeze Bag solution. Point being, it would be a compromise for other benefits such as weight and convenience(compared to my Sweetwater).
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:20 PM
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Another vote for the First Need. My model is from 20 years ago... with the same original cartridge. Wasn't sure of it's ability now that I've dug it out of storage, but it passed the food color integrity test. And I haven't developed any spastic bowel problems.

I can see how other models might have an advantage, however, with field serviceability. Probably wouldn't hurt to put a hash mark on the First Need cartridge every time you filter, to keep track of the cartridge's life.
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:25 AM
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Another vote for the First Need. My model is from 20 years ago... with the same original cartridge. Wasn't sure of it's ability now that I've dug it out of storage, but it passed the food color integrity test. And I haven't developed any spastic bowel problems.

I can see how other models might have an advantage, however, with field serviceability. Probably wouldn't hurt to put a hash mark on the First Need cartridge every time you filter, to keep track of the cartridge's life.

just think of the money you saved on filter changes! like when my grampa didn't change the oil in his tractor for 45 years....


i've been looking long and hard at the MSR options. it would be nice to have something for water right away if i needed it.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:49 AM
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Thanks for the info!

I'm going to put the Sweetwater on my shopping list!
I've used them before, and never heard anything bad about them. I've never seen the first need in action, but it looks like a solid filter. I've used the katadyn and it worked well, but it just seemed a little flimsy, I'm worried I would break the pump lever. I've heard so many horror stories about the hyperflow, I'm a little afraid of it. So I guess the Sweetwater wins out.

Thanks again!
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:17 PM
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giving a big plug for gravity filters. I have been using ULA Amigo Pro for a few years now and really love it. I was skeptical given that the adoration of these filters by its users often sounded more like religion than an objective evaluation.

My first two trips with it I took along my trusty sweetwater just in case. The gravity filter worked like a champ - clealy faster and easier than my sweetwater. If you are camped near a water source, it really shines because you can get other camp chores done while filtering water. I generally don't have trouble finding a spot to hang the filter here in the Pacific Northwest. Last week I was filtering water on a steep, rocky, treeless bank. It took a bit more futzing than usual, but found a good spot to hang it withing a couple of mins. I haven't had any problems with the filter, so i don't have experience with troubleshooting in the field.

ULA no longer makes the Amigo Pro, but Platypus had a gravity filter that works well, too.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:48 PM
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I second the ULA Amigo Pro. It's unfortunate that they don't make them anymore; their simplicity is brilliant. It seems as though you could make one fairly easily if you were so inclined.

I've had mine in use for three very active seasons and just now had to replace the filter.

I also have an MSR MiniWorks, but it hasn't seen the light of day since the Amigo Pro showed up.
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