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Old 03-08-2010, 09:51 AM
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the main issue with the AR-7 for accuracy is the barrel, and how it mates to the receiver. it's really difficult to make sure those are perfectly aligned, especially given that the rear sight is on the receiver and not the barrel.

I had a machinist friend add a couple of pins on the barrel to ensure it is aligned the same every time.. so that takes care of 99% of that issue

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found out more about it after i took it to the riflesmith for a look over and zeroing the scope. turns out it's made my CZ(who make the wonderful 5xx series rifles and the infamous CZ-75 series pistols), who did a lot of contracting for sears back when. they're apparently rarer guns. the stock is a later add-on, not factory. the trigger is fully adjustable. he said the action feels like it's only a couple years old, not almost 50.

sweet deal.. now you just need to go put some rounds through it
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:47 AM
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Check out the Marlin Papoose as another .22 rifle alternative. It has an alignment key for the barrel. It's the one I decided on after looking at the AR7 and others.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:37 AM
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Check out the Marlin Papoose as another .22 rifle alternative. It has an alignment key for the barrel. It's the one I decided on after looking at the AR7 and others.

That's exactly what I've been thinking about. They actually sell them with the stock cut out, to cut back on wght. I've seen them as low a $200, and have heard great things about them.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:14 AM
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the papoose is a wonderful little gun, speaking from experience.

the AR7 has had a spotty history when it comes to quality. when armalite was making them they were fantastic. after it was sold off, the quality dropped noticably until it was bought by henry, where it's known as the henry survival rifle now. the current ones are actually as well made or better than the original rifle by armalite.

the papoose is a great little pack gun as well, though i'm not a fan of using a separate case(guess i like the in the stock packing of the AR7).

coincidentally the weather is nice and clear today, so i'm going to go get some rounds on target with the .270 today...
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:10 PM
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The .270 is one of the truly great rounds and a lot of really fine rifles have been built for it. No bolt action makes a good brush gun in my opinion, but lots of folks use the .270/.308/'06 for just that purpose and they get their game.

But most of those rifles are way too long for scamblin'.

I favor the 30-30 Marlin for most things though I am very fond of a Remington 700 Youth Model in .243 Winchester that I restocked a number of years ago for hunting the canyons of coastal California. Light, short (20" barrel) and very hot with 40 grains of H4350 under a nuthin'-special Hornady 100 grain spire point. Cookin'! Ballistic Plex scope (Burris) in decent rings completes the package. Zero'd at 200 yards, if you can see it you can eat it.

If I were to ever buy another long gun, which is doubtful as I have quite a few, it would be a Marlin Guide's Model in .444 or .450 Marlin. Now there's a brush gun!

Ben
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:05 AM
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i'm a big fan of the versatile .44 magnum for a brush gun, in the marlin 1894s.

ten rounds, ready to rock. plenty of wallop but not huge noise and recoil, light, fast in the hands, and with a ghost ring sight set, fast to get on target too.

i'm planning more stalk/hide hunting with the .270, since that's where bolt actions really shine.
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Old 10-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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Range Results

she's pretty damn on at 100. shoots a bit to the left when she warms up. bout two inches and a little after she gets good and warm. still close enough for deer.


highlight of the range day was a 3-shot, sub 1/2'' group at 100 yards that downright pleased me.
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Old 10-11-2010, 11:03 AM
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she's pretty damn on at 100. shoots a bit to the left when she warms up. bout two inches and a little after she gets good and warm. still close enough for deer.
highlight of the range day was a 3-shot, sub 1/2'' group at 100 yards that downright pleased me.
on the 1/2" group!

It's the first shot out of a cold barrel that matters, right?
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:26 PM
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on the 1/2" group!

It's the first shot out of a cold barrel that matters, right?

exactly! and first shot out of a cool barrel is going to land within about a quarter inch of where i put the crosshairs, so i am VERY happy.

and those were factory loads! i'm starting to wonder if it would be worth it to experiment or just duplicate federal's 130-grain load and call it good.

oddly, if i keep the barrel temp even between shots, the stringing to the left is consistent, which is really quite interesting.




the one to the left was the fourth shot of the group, which was a flinch induced flyer.

fella two points down let loose with this bodacious short-barreled .58 cal muzzleloader that had pretty much the entire firing line flinch and startle-fire.

proud of only flinching enough to throw it off by two inches and some.
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